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February 4, 2014

Thoughts on the shooting of Trayvon Martin

Filed under: Issues...the world...etc.. — Tags: , , , , — allthatiswrong @ 12:52 pm

I’m writing this almost 2 years after the event happened, and about six months after the trial. Now that things have finally cooled down, I’d like to write my thoughts on the matter so they are just not lost in the noise. My view on this is simple…Zimmerman is completely innocent. It was not a hate crime. The people upset he walked away are a fantastic example of why democracy is such a horrible idea.

So, let me expand on that and look at what actually happened. A half-white Hispanic man killed a black teen at night, while he saw someone he saw as suspicious after the neighborhood had had a string of robberies. There were no witnesses, so we have to take the evidence we have available including Zimmerman’s statement, 911 calls, character references and whatever else may help. Zimmerman’s story was that he acted in self defense, which is something that the courts found to be consistent with evidence.

That’s pretty much why he walked. We won’t ever truly know what happened and if he is innocent or not. But in the American justice system, you have to prove a crime was committed beyond a reasonable doubt. There is a very good reason for that and a lot of history leading up to that principle being a cornerstone of the justice system. Sadly, it is something most Americans and even most of the world don’t understand.

Zimmerman walked because the evidence was consistent with his account of what happened, and because murder could not be proved. That’s it. That’s a good thing because it means the justice system is working as it was intended to. Is it a shame Trayvon Martin died? Undoubtedly. It’s very sad and the case brought a lot of attention, hopefully things will improve because of it and his death was not for anything.

But just because it was a tragic death does not mean someone should necessarily pay for it, and certainly not someone who *may* have been guilty of murder but we can’t prove. That equates to putting an innocent man in jail to satisfy the emotions of everyone affected by Trayvon Martin’s death, and I personally think that is far, far worse than the killing of Trayvon Martin. For those reasons, I’m glad Zimmerman got off and I’m glad the mob didn’t get their say.

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3 Comments »

  1. No that I know enough to take a side… One thing I do know is that you have oversimplified the facts and oversimplified the sentiments… which is what the Zimmerman camp did well in their efforts in presenting this oversimplification to those that listened.

    … oversimplified the facts
    1. I’m not claiming to know ALL the facts, but you only listed the obvious facts supporting Zimmerman… which may be valid but you ignore and don’t answer to facts like: He saw an “unarmed” kid which “he thought” was suspicious…. “rightfully called the Police”…”the police told him not to pursue this kid”… “who had before contact done nothing to him” except “looking suspicious in a victimized neighborhood”… BUT HE CHOSE TO PURSUE… and that is a big one for me. It does not matter who started the fight at this point. To me, faced with the question of “why are you pursuing me?” Trayvon should have used anything to protect himself from this older person pursuing him. The pursuit was the first act and to me that changes almost everything.

    Your talk of the law doing its job is again very one sided. Instead of only thinking about the right for someone to self defense for Zimmerman only… think of the failed self defense of Trayvon after he was pursued by this man because he looked the wrong way in the wrong neighborhood. Should each neighborhood put up a sign of how I should dress and how many crimes they have been subjected to before I lose the right to walk freely without being killed in it?? The law definitely did not work for me!!??$$## And I’m doing my best to leave my experience as a black man in America out of this conversation…lol.

    …oversimplified the sentiments
    2. Not everybody wanted Zimmerman hanged to death for the death of Trayvon. Many simply wanted to see the legal system offer some sort of deterrent to this assumption of power of someone to pursue an innocent individual that did not look “right” in the eyes of the pursuant, and minding was his business, after law enforcement has clearly told him not to do so, and thereby leading himself into a fight that would not have taken place if he had kept at bay. The anger is for some protection here because most of the people “who don’t look right” are minorities.

    I’m not saying you are not a minority or saying that you are a racist… but definitely sometimes not taking a side and simply keeping your ears open is sometimes a better approach. Just like you said, “just because it was a tragic death does not mean someone should necessarily pay for it”… similarly… Just because everyone has an opinion on it does not mean you must have an opinion it. You should have kept silent if you have no real in-depth analysis of facts to support you views.

    Comment by ugpulse — May 8, 2014 @ 1:52 pm

    • I haven’t simplified anything. I have all the information I need to support my article above. The point is a populace had no idea what happened or who was guilty, but assumed the death was a result of racial profiling and therefore the half-white man must be guilty. The legal system prevailed in this case, which is something that does not happen too often.

      Comment by allthatiswrong — October 12, 2014 @ 7:49 pm

  2. A man with a weapon with a weapon in front of a man without a weapon is in a superior position. An undoubtedly imbalance of power existed. I don’t know if it’s hard to make another person unable to fight, if you are the only person with a weapon in the fight. But if it is, then as a reasonable human (which respects a worth of a human life) you either decided to kill someone frivolously (in the case you know can’t handle such a situation) or decided to master such situations (e.g. to train making people unable to fight against you without killing them).

    In both cases you are at least a morally guilty. I don’t know the laws in the US, for me it’s common sense to punish people, who think they can handle a gun responsibly and failed to do it.

    I agree with you, with problems in democratic systems like the influence of hysteric masses of people. Letting amateurish people playing with guns to play “civil defense” (for be in service for the people) is indeed a democratic idea, which seems problematic to me.

    Comment by Kietschz — August 11, 2014 @ 3:58 pm


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